Whiteness Studies and Implications for Indian-American Identity

Apr 26 2007  | Views 11878 |  Comments  (246)
A new 175-page bibliography is launched on American Whiteness Studies, along with a brief discussion on how this topic relates to my research on identity in America, including implications for Indian-Americans.... Expand

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  grayrider posted 3 mnths ago

THE CLASSIFICATION OF AMERICANS BY RACE AND ETHNICITY MUST END

The Racial and Ethnic classification of Americans is nothing more than institutionalized racism and must be ended. The United States of America has been known as a country of rugged individualism based on individual freedom and liberty. Why has America become a country obsessed with classifying its citizens into different racial and ethnic sub-groups?

The only groups that actively support the continued collection of racial and ethnic data are big government bureaucrats and "racial and ethnic special interest groups” that also happen to receive significant funding from the federal government. These organizations argue that identifying people by race and ethnicity is necessary in order to redress some past injustice and that the federal government must continue to collect and use this information in order to set up special racial and ethnic programs, affirmative action quotas and other set-asides for these groups, some of whom consist of new immigrants, illegal aliens and non-citizens. Nothing can be further from the truth. In a country where we can no longer ask people what religion they are, what their party affiliation is or what their sexual orientation is, why are we still asking them about their racial and ethnic background?

Americans are beginning to realize that racial and ethnic identification is more a matter of personal choice than anything else. In the 2000 Census, seven million American citizens refused to place themselves into a single category by refusing to describe themselves as only white, black, Asian, Latino or any one of the other specific categories listed, because they were of mixed race. Attempts by the government to create a “mixed race” box for the 2000 Census was met with resistance by racial and ethnic special interest groups like the NAACP and the National Council of La Raza, because they feared that a mixed-race box could pose a danger to the justification for their existence. The fuzzier such racial and ethnic categories become, the harder it will be for these racial and ethnic special interest groups and the government to traffic in them. If a mixed-race category were to be added, every brown-skinned person of mixed race registered in this category would shrink the government’s official count of Blacks, Latinos, Asians or American Indians, eventually reducing their political influence and ultimately the amount of money these groups receive from the federal government, which amounts to approximately $185 billion a year.

Through the mandated collection and use of racial and ethnic specific information, more and more of American taxpayers’ hard earned money is being routinely distributed to these racial and ethnic special interest groups at the expense of all other Americans who may or may not be members of these groups. Through executive orders, congressional legislation, affirmative action programs, racial set-asides, quotas and other programs based solely on race and ethnicity, our federal government is playing the key role that pits one racial and ethnic group against another, which could eventually lead to our destruction as a country.

Rather than helping a diverse population become assimilated and united as one nation, the Federal government is doing what the Nazi government of Germany did in the 1930’s and 40’s; creating government supported institutionalized racism by the intentional classification of it’s citizens by race and ethnicity.

With the support of racial and ethnic special interest groups, our federal government seems to view our citizens not just as Americans, but rather as “pawns” in some social science experiment to be classified and separated into different racial or ethnic sub-groups for some unknown purpose. By mandating the classification of Americans into specific racial and ethnic sub-groups, the federal government and the advocates of “diversity” are actually perpetuating institutionalized racism and keeping Americans divided. Maybe the real purpose of collecting this data is to justify the continuing flow of government money to these racial and ethnic special interest groups.

If we want to help poor Americans escape poverty, get better health care, find a job or get a good education, why should it matter what their race or ethnic background is? The answer is: It should not! Americans need to come together as members of one country and remember that we are all individual Americans, regardless of race or ethnic background. Martin Luther King, Jr., inspired a nation when he voiced his dream for a color-blind nation, a nation in which people would be judged by the content of their characters, "not the color of their skin." The answer to this government encouraged racism is the concept of Liberty with a limited, constitutional government that is devoted to the protection of individual rights rather than the claims of different racial and ethnic special interest groups. Where Liberty is present, individual achievement and competence are rewarded, not people’s skin color or ethnicity.

I will support legislation barring the federal government from the collection of racial and ethnic information about the American people and/or the classification of American citizens by race and ethnicity, including the collection of census information. Exceptions should be made for law enforcement, hospitals and medical research purposes.

I will also support legislation that bans affirmative action programs, racial set-asides, quotas and any other programs that give special preferences based on race and ethnicity.

By:
JOHN W. WALLACE
Candidate for Congress
New York’s 20th Congressional District
www.FreedomCandidate.com



  hello_abc posted 1 year ago

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/07/historian_barton_says_hindu_pr.php

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  Rajiv Malhotra posted 1 year ago

 
 
In 2007 it was IF that funded the Bangkok Sanskrit Conf where their sanskrit journal was launched and the university center announced. I expresed my concerns to the Indian embassy folks there about the missed opportunity by India to project cultural diplomacy. The response was that this would be against secularism, so we had some discussions.
 
My plenary address there, attended by the Crown Pincess of Thailand, was titled, Geopolitics and Sanskrit Phobia," and is posted at: http://rajivmalhotra.sulekha.com/blog/post/2005/07/geopolitics-and-sanskrit-phobia.htm
 
Even though GOI dont mention the role played by IF, I am glad that the Thai king was able to convince GOI of the importance to support this initiative. French, British, Chinese, US,and various other nations support cultural diplomacy as a part of their soft power. India lags behind in this and in fact many Indians work in the reverse direction. So this fresh announcement is encouraging.



  Zafar posted 1 year ago

Karigar

 

[In that long response of yours, there seems to be a deafening silence on one issue, i.e. Culture. Do you think culture, as practiced by the individual, and as identified with them by others, is irrelevant?]

 

Not at all. I just question the degree of commonality between those who control nexuses and those who are targeted by nexuses in the perception of those who are targeted. This includes questioning the degree of commonality of culture, but also would include questioning commonality of interests and agendas. I do wonder about the relative importance of cultural commonalities in the perception of those who are targeted when confronted by different interests and agendas of nexuses. I suspect that a alignment of social/economic agenda/interest trumps cultural commonality.

 

[Regardless of what you or I say, do you think the Angana Chatterjees or all those others you named are not purporting to be some sort of representative Indians? Where did you get the impression that I had any stand on their legitimacy as participants (no matter what I may think of their views)? ]

 

Hey – I just pointed out that NRIs of widely varying beliefs and agendas all purport to have a legitimate stake in Indian culture. Which of these NRIs we tend to legitimise and de-legitimise does seem to be more a function of whether we agree with their views or not rather than anything else  - we tend to find an answer we like and then search for an appropriate question. Human tendency, I’m just saying.

 

[At issue could be their cynical use of their Indian cultural backgrounds, & then aligning with clearly understood foreign nexi. (Don't know enough about these individuals to say much, but that is how I'd judge them, by their organizations' stands / ideologies, etc...) ]

 

As I said, whether you like their ideology or not (apparently not) seems to colour your view of the legitimacy of their stake in Indian culture. ‘Cynical use’, ‘clearly understood foreign nexi’ are not neutral, objective descriptions. These are subjective negative assessments that de-legitimise ‘their’ stake and input. Right?

 

[More importantly, inspite of my previous statement of not having any stand on IDRF, you seem to want to attach labels to me as a "supporter"?]

 

Well, if you tell me directly that you do not support IDRF and its works I will of course believe you. Please note: I don’t see anything wrong in supporting IDRF either.

 

Regards.



  karigar posted 1 year ago

 
Zafar,
 
In that long response of yours, there seems to be a deafening silence on one  issue, i.e. Culture. Do you think culture, as practiced by the individual, and as identified with them by others, is irrelevant ?
 
Regardless of what you or I say, do you think the Angana Chatterjees or all those others you named are not purporting to be some sort of representative Indians? Where did you get the impression that I had any stand on their legitimacy as participants (no matter what I may think of their views)?
 
At issue could be their cynical use of their Indian cultural backgrounds, & then aligning with clearly understood foreign nexi. (Don't know enough about these individuals to say much, but that is how I'd judge them, by their organizations' stands / ideologies, etc...) 
 
More importantly, inspite of my previous statement of not having any stand on IDRF, you seem to want to attach labels to me as a "supporter" ?
 
LoL indeed....As I've been saying for a while now, we are starting from a few basic premises that are different. It's good to heve tham out in a discussion.
 
Regards.
 
 
More later...regards 
 



  Zafar posted 1 year ago

[I think it is generally understood that Indians outside India have a legitimate stake in Indian culture, since they live it & are identified by it. so autonomous efforts by them to help the "mother" country is not a foreign "nexus".]

 

Lol! Karigarbhai – what have we got here, a definition of foreign nexus as ‘not being in India’ except when a nexus that isn’t in India self defines as Indian (and has an outlook that we like) and then it is automatically not foreign but privileged as an ‘inside voice’?  Can John Dayal and Angana Chatterjee and Prema Kurien make the same ‘non-foreign’claims and would you support them using the same logic you did for IDRF?   Can I?   Basically, can non-Indian citizens (of whatever provenance) authentically decide whether they’re Indian or not, or can that decision about these foreign nationals only be made by Indians resident in India? Are all Indians in India going to agree, and if not, who decides? It isn’t up to our egos or good intentions or beliefs - it’s really up to the perception of the folks in India. (And WHICH folks in India, at that. It’s highly time/place specific.)

 

(On a segue: what do we mean by ‘autonomous’? It is no surprise that Indian American groups speak the language of American-ness – from the positive ‘individual rights’ to the negative label ‘commies’ when they seek to legitimise  themselves and delegitimise each other. Is it just coincidence that the VAST majority of Indian American groups’ objectives are broadly in line with the US’ core (ie economic) agenda in the subcontinent? I do think that religious issues are a complete side show – if it had to actually choose would American power want India Capitalist or Christian?  Does America really care that Japan has not become a 'Christian nation'?  I would argue that it's essentially indifferent.)

 

It also seems to me that having it ‘generally understood’ that Indians outside India have a legitimate stake etc. is another way of saying that it should be generally understood who, outside India, DOESN’T  have a legitimate stake, right?  But it ain’t ‘generally understood’ at all – we clearly fundamentally disagree on much of the detail, which is why we are having this rather interesting (and so far very civilised, I am enjoying it tremendously) discussion.

 

See – basically this ‘Validly Indian/Not Indian’ thing all boils down to: ‘WHO says’? Why should we believe them if we feel differently? (Or if it’s convenient for us to see a pov as valid.)  I don’t think that there is a universally accepted standard of in/out-ness (or ‘valid to India/not valid to India) that is standard across India. In the end, it’s going to be up to the affected people to accept a viewpoint as valid or not. And the ‘affected people’ may not be a nationally influential group (say, nationalist editorial writers and their urban/educated class), but a very local one (eg a Naga village, for example. Or more generally, the rural poor in India may see rich Indian born urbanites as ‘foreign’ to them in many ways as Sonia Gandhi – which is perhaps why the ‘Sonia isn’t Indian’ thing never caught on in dehath.)   Just telling people that they are ‘wrong’ to see certain povs as valid won’t really work, will it? (Which is why the spin doctors of a certain side of politics never understood WHY their ‘but she’s a foreigner’ thing wasn’t getting any traction in most of the country.)

 

That’s why the service delivery issue is so key if one wants to do more than preach to the choir. (That, and the awareness that the choir is just the choir, it is self selecting, it isn’t ‘representative’.)

 

Also keep in mind that the reason IDRF has a louder ‘voice’ in India than it would otherwise have (given the number of people involved in it) is precisely the same reason that Saudi or Texas Evangelical nexuses have a louder voice in India than they otherwise would have, given the number of people involved – the relative strength of the dollar vs the rupee. (With all the intrinsic positives and negatives – including modification of responses that people give – that implies.) The methodology of ‘intervention’ appears to be identical, with only the objectives/pov different – isn’t that going to affect how Indians in India see the issue, and the different proponents vying for their agreement/endorsement?

 

Regards



  karigar posted 1 year ago

Again, here’s my take: if an Indian nexus (the Govt in New Delhi, say) is actually delivering the goods (good governance) in a village in Dangs, then the allure of/influence of another nexus (be it in Saudi, or Texas, or IDRF headquarters in the USA)
 
===End Quote===
 
Zafar,
 
I think we are onto some basic differences here. I hold no position on the IDRF, but I understand you seem to be saying that it is an "outsider nexus" as the others (Saudi & Texas Evangelicals) obviously are?
 
I mean, Saudi or Texan nexi are outside nexi, since they aren't controlled by Indian muslims or Christians, by any stretch of the imagination. Or are they?
 
I think it is generally understood that Indians outside India have a legitimate stake in Indian culture, since they live it & are identified by it. so autonomous efforts by them to help the "mother" country is not a foreign "nexus".
 
 



  Zafar posted 1 year ago

Karigar

 

[You morphed my "criticism" into "attack"!

You may say it's all semantics, I say there is a world of difference between the characterizations.]

 

Fair enough. It is my take that rival nexuses with attack each other with their criticisms, because they are competing for influence. Perhaps I’m wrong.

 

[And again, the two (criticism of foreign nexi, and "delivery of services" ) are not an Either/Or, i.e. one is not dependent on the other. BOTH are required. It is not a change of subject, but introducing/sustaining a subject that doesn't get much "airtime"....]

 

Again, here’s my take: if an Indian nexus (the Govt in New Delhi, say) is actually delivering the goods (good governance) in a village in Dangs, then the allure of/influence of another nexus (be it in Saudi, or Texas, or IDRF headquarters in the USA) for the people of that village is highly limited – why do locals need another nexus when the nexus in New Delhi, while not local, is delivering adequately. It is ONLY when the nexus that is nominally ‘in control’ is NOT delivering, that rival nexuses become viable as sources of delivery.

 

Now it seems to me that quite often, nexuses will critique (attack) other nexuses when they perceive themselves to be in trouble wrt delivery INSTEAD of looking at how and why they are failing, and taking steps to improve their delivery. Ie they tend to be evasive rather than self regulating. 

 

[I understand it is easier to make (& understand) either/or style dualistic arguments, but IMO "delivery of services" seems an attempt to change the subject [although a laudable subject, since I felt there was a lecture hidden there somewhere :) ]

 

I’m sure there were potentially several! However, let me muzzle myself, and try to explain without falling into didactic hyperbole…..

 

When a nexus is successful in terms of it being perceived to be delivering, it is less sensitive about criticism and possible rivalry because its position is founded firmly on good public perception. At this point it is able to take criticism healthily because it doesn’t perceive criticism as lethal. Hypersensitivity to criticism (which we can see, sometimes) is a direct function of failure to deliver. It’s also, imho, a dysfunctional response, it doesn’t strengthen a nexus because it ignores what it really weakening it.

 

I guess my question is: why is criticism of Indian nexuses always seen as lethal by self described ‘nationalists’– why is there an assumption that Indian nexuses cannot and will not do better, even among their supporters? (I would ask the same question wrt criticism/interrogation of Islam – strangely similar emotional responses to criticism : - )

 

[Also, this is not "criticism of rivals" as you put it.

 

It is a criticism in defence, of those who (largely successfully) attempt to define one as an objectified thing. i.e. here the "object" itself attempts to find a voice and talk back.]

 

If you say so, but I think it’s a conceit to think that Indian nexuses of power authentically speak for the powerless in India. If the powerless actually had a voice, they could interrogate both Delhi and Saudi and Texas and choose freely. That would be truly ‘talking back’. 

 

New Delhi controls Dangs - to claim that New Delhi therefore speaks for Dangs (and not for New Delhi) seems to silence Dangs’ authentic voice – which may say things New Delhi doesn’t like hearing at all. Including, just possibly, choosing some things from Saudi and Texas – how can we know until they are completely free to speak? And do we have a moral right to stop them, if they make decisions we don’t like?

 

Regards



  karigar posted 1 year ago

Zafar,
 
Also, this is not "criticism of rivals" as you put it.
 
It is a criticism in defence, of those who (largely successfully) attempt to define one as an objectified thing. i.e. here the "object" itself attempts to find a voice and talk back.
 
Regds.
 



  karigar posted 1 year ago

 
Zafar,
 
You morphed my "criticism" into "attack"!
 
You may say it's all semantics, I say there is a world of difference betwen the characterizations.
 
And again, the two (criticism of foreign nexi, and "delivery of services" ) are not an Either/Or, i.e. one is not dependent on the other. BOTH are required. It is not a change of subject, but introducing/sustaining a subject that doesn't get much "airtime"....
 
I understand it is easier to make (& understand) either/or style dualistic arguments, but IMO "delivery of services" seems an attempt to change the subject [although a laudable subject, since I felt there was a lecture hidden there somewhere :)
 
 





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